(Ken Silva, Headline USA) As the bipartisan call for war continues to grow louder, Tucker Carlson and presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy continue to caution conservatives not to fall for the same trap they did in the wake of 9/11—when they launched two wars that killed hundreds of thousands, cost the U.S. at least $6 trillion, resulted in increased Iranian influence in Iraq, and ultimately led to the Taliban retaking power in Afghanistan.
Carlson released another discussion he had with Ramaswamy on Wednesday, with the two responding to the criticism they’ve taken for voicing their anti-war views. The video comes on the heels of a particularly vicious attack by neocon Ben Shapiro, who blasted Carlson last week for not wanting to spill American blood and treasure for Israel.
“I don’t understand why [Tucker] isn’t on my side when it comes to, ‘Hamas has to be wiped off the face of the earth,’” a hysterical Shapiro said last week, later adding: “If Israel is forced to the wall, the possibility of nuclear exchange is extremely high.”
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Carlson didn’t name Shapiro in his Wednesday response, but was clearly referencing him when he attacked the “lunatics” casually discussing nuclear war.
“I’m watching people on television and the internet sort of blithely talk about the use of nuclear weapons in this conflict. Can we agree that anyone who throws out, ‘maybe they’ll use nukes,’ is insane?” Carlson asked Ramaswamy.
“You have to be a mental patient to say something like that.”
Ramaswamy responded that he “can’t speak for the mental state of these people,” but pointed out the obvious: that nuclear war would kill millions at the least, and would lead to unforeseen negative consequences.
Ramaswamy then discussed how conservatives are using left-wing cancel-culture tactics to silence anti-war voice on the right. He said “isolationist” has replaced “racist” as a term to smear such voices.
Carlson agreed.
“If you’re attacked for asking what’s good for the United States, if you’re being denounced by Republicans for saying that—then the whole America First thing was just a lie,” he said.
But that doesn’t mean that Carlson and Ramaswamy are anti-Israel. Rather, Ramaswamy voiced support for Israel to pursue clearly stated objectives in response to the heinous attack that killed more than 1,000 Jews.
Ramaswamy suggested that Israel hunt down Hamas’s leadership and “put their heads on stakes” along its border wall. If Ramaswamy were President, he’d back such a plan with U.S. intelligence and logistical support, he said.
Ramaswamy and Carlson’s discussion comes as President Joe Biden has voices full-throated support for an open-ended Israeli war.
Ramaswamy warned that such a policy could spiral into World War 3.
“We should be helping our partner,” he said. “Our job is to tell them these are the mistakes we made in the wake of 9/11.”